Comments on: Hear Ye http://blog.germuska.com/2003/07/02/hear-ye/ "Hey, I'm just happy to be here..." Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:21:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bag and Baggage http://blog.germuska.com/2003/07/02/hear-ye/comment-page-1/#comment-50 Bag and Baggage Tue, 08 Jul 2003 17:47:07 +0000 http://www.akwaabasound.com/golb/?p=215#comment-50 <strong>Oyeah</strong> Oyeah

]]> By: Denise Howell http://blog.germuska.com/2003/07/02/hear-ye/comment-page-1/#comment-49 Denise Howell Fri, 04 Jul 2003 17:46:17 +0000 http://www.akwaabasound.com/golb/?p=215#comment-49 Thanks Joe! You're right, I never would have found the OYEZ feeds or iCalendar without your pointer, and am thrilled to have them. Thanks Joe! You’re right, I never would have found the OYEZ feeds or iCalendar without your pointer, and am thrilled to have them.

]]> By: Joe http://blog.germuska.com/2003/07/02/hear-ye/comment-page-1/#comment-48 Joe Thu, 03 Jul 2003 16:15:13 +0000 http://www.akwaabasound.com/golb/?p=215#comment-48 <p> Actually, Jetspeed isn't defunct, although I could see why it might look that way. They don't really make their website clear for outsiders. However, the <a href="http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JetspeedProjectPages" rel="nofollow">main Jetspeed page</a> in the <a href="http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?HomePage" rel="nofollow">Apache wiki</a> was updated a few months ago, and <a href="http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-jetspeed/release/v1.4b4/" rel="nofollow">Jetspeed 1.4b4</a> was released at the end of April. </p> <p> Apparently, Jetspeed is the core of IBM's WebSphere portal, and it is part of the horribly slow <a href="http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=168" rel="nofollow">JSR-168</a> process to standardize Portlets. It may or may not be the reference implementation for that JSR, if that JSR is ever actually released. (The <a href="http://jcp.org/en/jsr/results?id=1859" rel="nofollow">vote log</a> for the recent community review reveals some of the inner turmoil of that JSR...) </p> <p> I like the idea of Jetspeed, but I have to admit that the idea of learning <a href="http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/" rel="nofollow">Turbine</a> is kind of like the idea of learning C++. Fine in theory, but it hasn't seemed worth the effort yet. It would be cool if there were a "model" layer that was more cleanly decoupled from the view/controller, but if you look at Jetspeed code, Turbine dependencies are all through it. </p> Actually, Jetspeed isn’t defunct, although I could see why it might look that way. They don’t really make their website clear for outsiders. However, the main Jetspeed page in the Apache wiki was updated a few months ago, and Jetspeed 1.4b4 was released at the end of April.

Apparently, Jetspeed is the core of IBM’s WebSphere portal, and it is part of the horribly slow JSR-168 process to standardize Portlets. It may or may not be the reference implementation for that JSR, if that JSR is ever actually released. (The vote log for the recent community review reveals some of the inner turmoil of that JSR…)

I like the idea of Jetspeed, but I have to admit that the idea of learning Turbine is kind of like the idea of learning C++. Fine in theory, but it hasn’t seemed worth the effort yet. It would be cool if there were a “model” layer that was more cleanly decoupled from the view/controller, but if you look at Jetspeed code, Turbine dependencies are all through it.

]]> By: Tony Becker http://blog.germuska.com/2003/07/02/hear-ye/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Tony Becker Thu, 03 Jul 2003 15:55:09 +0000 http://www.akwaabasound.com/golb/?p=215#comment-47 (I also used to work on this project, once upon a long time ago.) What Joe failed to mention is that the original idea of using RSS feeds in Oyez belongs to him. He had the idea back before I even knew what the acronym stood for. The cool thing about RSS usage on oyez.org is that they're "first class" feeds that drive the content of the front page directly (an idea I got from the now-mostly-defunct Apache Jetspeed.) Unfortunately the aggregator I'm using seems to have trouble with the feeds... I'm really glad to see MP3 publishing of the arguments under CC licensing. Bravo! (I also used to work on this project, once upon a long time ago.)

What Joe failed to mention is that the original idea of using RSS feeds in Oyez belongs to him. He had the idea back before I even knew what the acronym stood for. The cool thing about RSS usage on oyez.org is that they’re “first class” feeds that drive the content of the front page directly (an idea I got from the now-mostly-defunct Apache Jetspeed.) Unfortunately the aggregator I’m using seems to have trouble with the feeds…

I’m really glad to see MP3 publishing of the arguments under CC licensing. Bravo!

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